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"Stooges Rule!" |
All the more reason to make a living will NOW, then poor Terri wouldn't be going through all this misery and her relatives would have made the right decision.
I agree with Mikey, no one has the right to make that decision otherwise. |
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No one os going to kill her outright. They only want to disconnect the life support systems. This has nothing to do with pro-life.
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| <MikeyD>
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Oh I see.....they will just starve her. Give me a break.
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Is there any hope for this person on life support?
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| <MikeyD>
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There is always hope. The real issue is that her wonderful husband wants to pull the plug and her parents do not. Since she didn't leave and written wishes the courts have sided with the husband who says she told him she would not want to be kept alive in this state. I don't buy it.
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But if you were to have a will or whatever written up saying the doctor could to pull the plug, they can do that?
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| <Norie>
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Terri is not on "Life Support".Terri is severely brain damaged and does not have a gag reflex, because of this she can not swallow. She is unable to chew or swallow any food so a feeding tube was inserted into her stomach and she is fed this way.
I guess one could argue that this is a form of life support, it is nutrional support. The husband has refused to divorce her and has lived with another woman and has had a few kids with her. The parents and siblings of Terri say she never expressed one way or the other about how she felt about life support. Terri's husband says she had to him and I believe a friend. Terri received a large malpractice settlement and that is what has funded her care. Her husband for years has taken her to many top notch Neuro guys and they all have stated there is no way she would recover, and all fuctions lost are permanent. The dilemia is do you do what Terri wanted or do you do what her family wants? If it has been proven in court ( and I think it has) that Terri did let be known her wishes then take the tube out and let her go. The Courts have had seperate lawyers for Terri so there is no conflict, and they agree with the husband.The parents in their blindness and sorrow want to delay the inevitable.When the money {which is just about gone} runs out then the taxpayer will foot the bill. It is a horrible decision any Judge has to make, and I only pray it is the correct one. To starve someone to death is not only a slow painful death but is also inhumane. |
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| <CATHY13>
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NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO TAKE ANOTHER LIFE...
KILLING HER "WITH KINDNESS" IS NO EXCEPTION,... |
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Terri was extremely young when she had a heart attack (brought on by an eating disorder). I can't think of too many people in their early 30's that have living wills. So even if it was her wish, she probably wouldn't have had it done legally at that point. Terri is never going to get better, she is severly brain damaged, its not just a matter of coming out of a coma. The husband is a dirtbag, and the parents are just prolonging what is bound to happen. I don't believe that Terri should be starved to death, its a horrible way to go, however I do believe that a Do Not Resustiate order should be on her, and just let her go peacefully when the time comes.
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"Stooges Rule!" |
She's not ON life support, however, she is fed through the stomach with a feeding tube. They disconnected the tube for almost a week, but put it back on her again.
Since she didn't have a living will, and what do you call that thing? Right to Recessatate?? Had she signed one, they wouldn't be having this problem now. However, without the patient's wishes in writing, they can't do a damned thing. She is still breathing on her own. |
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I'd suggest reading some things that Dr. Thomas Shanahan, a professor of philosophy and medical ethicist has written about end of life care. He has made some brilliant distinctions between treatment and useless medical procedures that simply delay the dying process.
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| <Norie>
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Then Cathy are you against the death penalty? |
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I BELIEVE THAT THIS CASE IS NOT AT ALL SIMILAR TO THE DEATH PENALTY. I AM TOTALLY AGAINST THE DEATH PENALTY, BECAUSE NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO KILL ANYONE. BUT THIS WOMAN IS BRAIN DEAD. THE ONLY THING THAT IS "ALIVE" IS THE BODY, IF YOU WANT TO CALL THAT BEING ALIVE. HER BRAIN IS NOT ALERT AND SHE IS AWARE OF NOTHING. WITHDRAWING FOOD WOULD SIMPLY END THE FUNCTIONING OF THE BODY. THE BRAIN IS ALREADY GONE. SINCE SHE WILL NEVER "COME BACK" TO THEM, HER PARENTS SHOULD JUST LET HER GO BACK TO GOD. THEY WOULD NOT BE KILLING HER.
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| <CATHY13>
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HAHAHA I KNEW IT WOULDN'T BE LONG BEFORE SOMEONE POSTED THAT QUESTION.... I'M FOR THE DEATH PENALTY....SUPPORT IT TOTALLY... WHAT'S THE DIFFERNCE YOU ASK?? A PERSON WHO "MURDERS" SOMEONE (DELIBERATLY TAKES THE LIFE OF ANOTHER) SHOULD "DIE", THEY DON'T DESERVE TO LIVE... PRO CHOICE??--- IS MURDER ..NO MATTER HOW YOU CHOOSE TO SUGAR COAT THE "TERMINOLOGY" ..THE CHOICE DOESN'T BEGIN "AFTER" CONCEPTION, IT BEGINS BEFORE , WAY BEFORE THE DRINKING AND PARTYING, PROMISCUITY AND IRRESPONSIBLITY START.. "WOMEN'S CHOICE", HER CHOICE SHOULD CONSIST OF, THE PILL? DIAPHRAM? CONDOM? THOSE ARE CHOICES.. ABORTION??--- WHY WOULD I CHOOSE TO LET A GUILTY CRIMINAL LIVE AND AN INNOCENT BABY DIE???? AS FAR AS TERRI, THE WOMAN IS STILL "ALIVE" AND HAS DONE "NOTHING WRONG" IN SOCIEY , OTHER THAN OVER EAT...I DON'T THINK THE JUDGE NOR THE DOC'S SHOULD GO AGAINST THE CODE OF ETHICS... AND I DO BELEIVE, WHEN THERES' LIFE THERE'S HOPE.. |
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CATHY.....IF HER BRAIN WERE ALIVE, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU. BUT, HER BRAIN IS DEAD. IT WILL NEVER FUNCTION AGAIN. WHAT IS THE USE OF PROLONGING THE INEVITABLE DEATH? THE SOONER THEY LET HER GO, THE SOONER HER FAMILY CAN GET ON WITH THEIR LIVES.
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| <CATHY13>
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I DISAGREE MARILYN,
THE REASON THE FAMILY WANTS HER TAKEN OFF LIFE SUPPORT AND STARVED IS SO SHE IS NOT A BURDEN TO THEM ANY LONGER AND THEY CAN "BURY HER" AND GET IT OVER WITH... I DON'T MEAN TO KEEP COMING ACROSS AS "HOLIER THAN THOU" PERSON, I'M NOT,AND FAR FROM IT...LOL I DO BELEIVE IN GOD, AND RESPECT HIS WISHES, AND I, PERSONALLY WOULD NOT WANT TO FACE HIM HAVING PULLED THE PLUG ON TERRY, OR HAVING HAD AN ABORTION.. THOSE ARE MY FEELINGS... HOWEVER, CHILD MURDERERS, RAPISTS, I'D APPLY FOR THE JOB OF PUBLIC EXECUTIONER IF I COULD... |
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| <CATHY13>
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GOD HAD A REASON FOR PUTTING HER THERE...AND AS LONG AS AIR IS GETTING TO HER LUNGS AND HEART IS BEATING, WE SHOULD WAIT FOR "GOD" TO TAKE HER...
IT'S A TERRIBLE THING, I KNOW...AND IF IT WERE ME, I'D WANT TO DIE TOO... I GUESS I'LL CARRY A LOCKET AROUND MY NECK THAT SAYS " AMBULANCE DRIVER-- IN CASE I'M IN A NEAR FATAL ACCIDENT, DRIVE SLOW"... |
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THE ONE THING YOU SAID THAT STRUCK HOME WITH ME IS THAT IF GOD WANTED HER HE SHOULD TAKE HER. BUT I JUST HAVE TO WONDER WHY HE LETS HER LINGER ON AND ON LIKE SHE IS. I GUESS HE MUST HAVE HIS REASONS. THE SAME THING HAPPENED MANY YEARS AGO WITH CATHERINE ANN QUINLAN. SHE LINGERED FOR SO MANY YEARS AFTER MIXING ALCOHOL AND DRUGS. THERE WAS ALSO A LEGAL BATTLE THERE, BUT SHE FINALLY DIED AFTER 3 OR 4 YEARS. BUT, I GUESS WE HAVE NO RIGHT TO QUESTION OUR CREATOR. STILL, IT'S CONFUSING AND SEEMS TO BE WITHOUT REASON.
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| <CATHY13>
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i guess we shouldn't question GOD then..after all? who are we to decide when it's time for HIM to take her...
i remember carol ann quinlan, everynight on the news for like 3 yrs... my mother used to yell to me "see what happen to her, don't ever do drugs and drink"... |
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