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I feel sorry for soldiers of Mid. East descent who are in the military. This is not going to sit well with US soldiers.

That's right and it shouldn't. Not if they go around like this guy talking against the military the very military he is part of, and to think that this country paid his way full price of over 100,000 dollars for his schooling, and this is how they got repaid. Only a coward would go to each cubicle and fire a bullet into innocent men and women, only a coward, I have zero sympathy for him, sorry, that's me and my feelings, you may agree or not, I don't care. PS. there are plenty more who feel the way I do too.

I am surprised that more incidents have not taken place. You train people to kill and to hate and the end result is that a few loose canons lose it.

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Originally posted by Gibby:
The regular army is fully engaged and the reserves too. They know they need more people but
the prez is not going to institute the draft, Bush told us over and over again how important
the war was and he was afraid to start the draft so what's the chance Obama will.

Gibby, the problem with the draft is that with all the high tech gear it takes over 3 years to train a grunt properly.

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Originally posted by HARPER:

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Originally posted by Gibby:
The regular army is fully engaged and the reserves too. They know they need more people but
the prez is not going to institute the draft, Bush told us over and over again how important
the war was and he was afraid to start the draft so what's the chance Obama will.

Gibby, the problem with the draft is that with all the high tech gear it takes over 3 years to train a grunt properly.

I find that a little lengthy. Perhaps a year but no more. By definition, a grunt has a limited purpose.

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Originally posted by Inarsword:
I am surprised that more incidents have not taken place. You train people to kill and to hate and the end result is that a few loose canons lose it.

AMEN INAR, AMEN.

NOW THE QUESTION REALLY IS, WAS THIS A JIHAD, OR A DISGRUNTLE WORKER? I AM LEANING TOWARD A JIHAD, AS THE MAJOR WAS QUOTED SAYING SOMETHING IN ARABIC, OR ISLAMIC, AND PREVIOUS POSTINGS SUPPORTING SUICIDE BOMBINGS.

I think he said that a soldier jumping on a handgrenade to protect his fellow soldiers is like suicide bombing. He did not say he supported either one. We will have to wait to learn about his motive.

I don't know whether this is motivated by Jihad but will we continue to view every Muslim who does something wrong as a terrorist?

Most of the terrorists in this country are white, Ameican citizens who are Republicans.

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Originally posted by HerbM:
Most of the terrorists in this country are white, Ameican citizens who are Republicans.

That's a ridiculous,ignorant statement!

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Originally posted by Mike McWatt:

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Originally posted by HerbM:
Most of the terrorists in this country are white, Ameican citizens who are Republicans.

That's a ridiculous,ignorant statement!

Herb definitely resembles that remark.

WELL HERB YOU'RE RIGHT, WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE. I DO NOT BELIEVE IN DISCRIMINATING AGAINST ANYONE, FOR ANY REASON. HAVING SAID THIS, THINGS DO NOT LOOK GOOD FOR THIS MAJOR.

THEY ARE STARTING TO CONNECT HIM TO THE MOSQUE THAT THE 9-11 TERRORISTS ATTENDED, AND SOME OTHER RELATED MATTERS.I DON'T THINK THIS IS BY COINCIDENCE, BUT BY DESIGN.

DID THIS SOLDIER HAVE PROBLEMS, EVIDENCE WILL SHOW HE CERTAINLY DID. HE WAS TOTALLY AGAINST THESE WARS BASED ON RELIGIOUS OBJECTIONS. IT WAS THE ARMY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO ACT ON THIS. PYSCHIATRITS ARE SO HARD TO FIND IN THE MILITARY, AND I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE KEPT THIS DR. AWAY FROM RETURNING SOLDIERS, OR SOLDIERS READY TO DEPLOY.

THEN THE ARGUMENT COMES, WHY SHOULD HE BE GIVEN ANY SPECIAL CONSIDERATION, WHEN SO MANY SOLDIERS HAVE THEIR OWN REASONS TO OBJECT TO THE WARS.

I PERSONALY FEEL, HE HAD SUCH HATRED FOR THE WARS THAT HIS DEPLOYMENT TO IRAQ SET OFF A VIOLENT REACTION IN HIM. HE FELT HE WOULD RATHER KILL US, THEN TO GO THERE AND SEE HIS FELLOWS KILLED. HE THOUGHT HE WOULD HAVE BEEN KILLED IN THE PROCESS, NEVER THINKING HE WOULD LIVE AND SPEND THE REST OF HIS LIFE WHERE HE IS GOING, IF NOT HUNG WHEN FOUND GUILTY.

TO ME THE BIGGER CRIME HERE IS THERE WERE WARNING SIGNS, THE CIA WAS AWARE OF HIM, IF THE REPORT IS CORRECT, AND NOBODY DID ANYTHING TO PROTECT EVERYONE FROM HIM.NOBODY DID ANYTHING TO HELP HIM!

ISN'T THIS HOW WE CAME TO 9-11? NO ONE DID ANYTHING, BUT THEY ALL KNEW ABOUT ALL OF THEM. WASN'T THE 9-11 COMMISSION REPORT CRITICAL OF THESE AGENCIES NOT COMMUNICATING WITH ONE ANOTHER? ISN'T THAT WHY THE HOMELAND SECURITY DEPT. WAS CREATED?

WHAT GOOD IS ALL THESE INVESTIGATIONS, REPORTS, RECOMMENDATIONS, IF WE DON'T TAKE THEIR ADVICE? WE LIVE IN A DANGEROUS WORLD TODAY, AND HOME GROWN TERRORISM IS OUR MAIN ENEMY.STOP TAKING THINGS FOR GRANTED, OR OVERLOOKING THE WARNING SIGNS ONLY TO SAY IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN TO ME, WHEN IN FACT IT DOES!

PEOPLE NEED TO DO THEIR JOBS, AND IF THEY CAN'T THEN GET RID OF THEM, AND THAT INCLUDES THE CIA, OR THE MILITARY.JUST MY OPINION.

It is true.

1. Remember those who killed Abortion Clinic doctors. They were white Christian Republicans

2. Most mass killers were White, Christian Republican.

3. Even the Oklahoma bombers were white, Christian, Republicans

I do not think you can up up eith any Liberal terrorists in all the mass killings.

Face the truth.

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. Remember those who killed Abortion Clinic doctors. They were white Christian Republicans

2. Most mass killers were White, Christian Republican.

3. Even the Oklahoma bombers were white, Christian, Republicans

I do not think you can up up eith any Liberal terrorists in all the mass killings.

NO HERB, YOU FACE THE TRUTH! YOU'RE A WHITE PERSON HATER, YOU HATE THIS COUNTRY AND WHITE PEOPLE, YOU'RE A TOTAL PUKE, AND IT'S PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO WILL MAKE THIS COUNTRY A THIRD WORLD NATION SO YOU WILL BE HAPPY LIVING IN POVERTY LIKE THE SWINE YOU ARE - AND LIVING IN DESTITUTE CONDITIONS, AS YOU ARE, HOW DID YOU AFFORD YOUR COMPUTER? GOVERNMENT PAYOFF FOR BEING A WEAKLING SUBVERSIVE?

They are a drop in the bucket compared to Islamic terrist acts on our soil. Not all Muslims are Mid. East., but a lot of different races. The one thing that unites them is their religion.
These are some of the acts carried out by them.

TheReligionofPeace.com

Islamic Terror Attacks on American Soil



We recently got taken to the mat by a polite, young Muslim living in the U.K. who took issue with our oft-repeated statement that no Muslim-American lost their life to vigilante violence following 9/11. She provided us a list of six or seven candidates and, after whittling out the ones where the killer was unknown or in cases with mitigating circumstances such as “victim was sleeping with killer’s ex-girlfriend” (and we’re not making that up), we reached a shocking conclusion:

We were wrong.

There is one seemingly unambiguous case that occurred in Dallas, Texas where Waqar Hasan, a Muslim convenience storeowner, was gunned down by Mark Anthony Stroman four days after the 9/11 attacks. Stroman claimed to have been motivated by anger from watching the towers fall. He is not exactly your average American, however, even apart from the shooting. For one thing, he is a white supremacist who carried a felony criminal record at the time of the attack. He also went on to shoot two more people in the weeks that followed.

Thankfully, an American jury sentenced Mark Stroman to death. The same cannot be said of many Muslim terrorists such as Lockerbie bomber, Abdelbaset Al Megrahi, who not only have sanctuary in Muslim countries, but are often treated as heroes by devout followers of Muhammad.

Nevertheless, we acknowledge that our friend is correct and that there was at least one Muslim killed in an anti-Arab hate crime in the U.S. following the anti-American hate crime on 9/11. For anyone keeping score:

People killed by radical Muslims on 9/11: 2,996
Muslim-Americans killed "in revenge": 1

Of course, 9/11 was neither the first nor the last time that Muslims have killed Americans on U.S. soil in terror attacks. In fact, since that day, Muslims have killed at least 52 people in 31 separate acts of terrorism in the United States (by the standards that Muslim-American groups set for hate crimes). Perhaps more importantly, there have been quite a few planned mass murders of Americans by Islamic terrorists that were thwarted by the FBI, law enforcement and overseas intelligence operations both before and after 9/11.

By contrast, Muslim-Americans do not appear to be in any special danger from murderous (non-Muslim) religious fanatics, even in a nation awash in firearms. Identity groups, such as CAIR, whine incessantly about relatively trivial incidents while turning a blind eye to the horrible violence that is meted out daily in the name of their religion. This distasteful petulance offers insight not only into the character of Islam, but also the impressive religious tolerance that Americans manage to maintain.

For anyone wondering about the history of deadly Islamic terror on American soil in the last 35 years, here’s what we could find:



Date Country City/State Killed Injured Description
4/14/1972 USA New York, NY 1 3 Ten members of a local mosque phone in a false alarm and then ambush responding officers, killing one.
1/19/1973 USA Brooklyn, NY 1 1 Muslim extremists rob a sporting goods store for weapons, gunning down a police officer who responds to the alarm.
7/18/1973 USA Washington, DC 8 2 Nation of Islam members shoot seven members of a family to death in cold blood, including four children. A defendant in the case is later murdered in prison on orders from Elijah Muhammad.
10/19/1973 USA Oakland, CA 1 1 Nation of Islam terrorists kidnap a couple and nearly decapitate the man, while raping and leaving the woman for dead.
10/29/1973 USA Berkeley, CA 1 0 A woman is shot repeatedly in the face by Nation of Islam terrorists.
11/25/1973 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 A grocer is killed in his store by Nation of Islam terrorists.
12/11/1973 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 A man is killed by Nation of Islam terrorists while using a phone booth.
12/13/1973 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 A woman is shot to deah on the sidewalk by Nation of Islam terrorists.
12/20/1973 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 Nation of Islam terrorists gun down an 81-year-old janitor.
12/22/1973 USA Oakland, CA 2 0 Nation of Islam terrorist kills two people in separate attacks on the same day.
12/24/1973 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 A man is kidnapped, tortured and decapitated by Nation of Islam terrorists.
1/24/1974 USA Oakland, CA 4 1 Five vicious shooting attacks by Nation of Islam terrorists leave three people dead and one paralyzed for life. Three of the victims were women.
4/1/1974 USA Oakland, CA 1 1 A Nation of Islam terrorist shoots at two Salvation Army members, killing a man and injuring a woman.
4/16/1974 USA Ingleside, CA 1 0 A man is killed while helping a friend move by Nation of Islam terrorists.
3/9/1977 USA Washington, DC 1 1 Hanifi Muslims storm three buildings including a B'nai B'rith to hold 134 people hostage. At least two innocents were shot and one died.
7/22/1980 USA Bethesda, MD 1 0 A political dissident is shot and killed in front of his home by an Iranian agent who was an American convert to Islam.
8/31/1980 USA Savou, IL 2 0 An Iranian student guns down his next-door neighbors, a husband and wife.
1/31/1990 USA Tuscon, AZ 1 0 A Sunni cleric is assassinated in front of a Tuscon mosque after declaring that two verses of the Qur'an were invalid.
11/5/1990 USA New York City, NY 1 0 An Israeli rabbi is shot to death by a Muslim attacker at a hotel.
1/25/1993 USA Langley, VA 2 3 A Pakistani with Mujahideen ties guns down two CIA agents outside of the headquarters.
2/26/1993 USA New York, NY 6 1040 Islamic terrorists detonate a massive truck bomb under the World Trade Center, killing six people and injuring over 1,000 in an effort to collapse the towers.
3/1/1994 USA Brooklyn, NY 1 0 A Muslim fires on a vanload of Jewish boys, killing one.
3/23/1997 USA New York, NY 1 6 A Palestinian leaves an anti-Jewish suicide note behind and travels to the top of the Empire State building where he shoot seven people in a Fedayeen attack.
4/3/1997 USA Lompoc, CA 1 0 A prison guard is stabbed to death by a radical Muslim.
10/31/1999 USA Near Nantucket 217 0 An Egyptian airline pilot runs a planeload of 217 passengers into the water after uttering a Qur'anic prayer.
3/17/2000 USA Atlanta, GA 1 1 A local imam and Muslim spiritual leader guns down a deputy sheriff and injures his partner.
9/11/2001 USA Washington, DC 184 53 Nearly 200 people are killed when Islamic hijackers steer a plane full of people into the Pentagon.
9/11/2001 USA Shanksville, PA 40 0 Forty passengers are killed after Islamic radicals hijack the plane in an attempt to steer it into the U.S. Capitol building.
9/11/2001 USA New York, NY 2772 251 Islamic hijackers steer two planes packed with fuel and passengers into the World Trade Center, killing hundreds on impact and eventually killing thousands when the towers collapsed. At least 200 are seriously injured.
3/19/2002 USA Tuscon, AZ 1 0 A 60-year-old man is gunned down by Muslim snipers on a golf course.
5/27/2002 USA Denton, TX 1 0 Muslim snipers kill a man as he works in his yard.
7/4/2002 USA Los Angeles, CA 2 0 Muslim man pulls out a gun at the counter of an Israeli airline and kills two people.
9/5/2002 USA Clinton, MD 1 0 A 55-year-old pizzaria owner is shot six times in the back by Muslims at close range.
9/21/2002 USA Montgomery, AL 1 1 Muslim snipers shoot two women, killing one.
9/23/2002 USA Baton Rouge, LA 1 0 A Korean mother is shot in the back by Muslim snipers.
10/2/2002 USA Wheaton, MD 1 0 Muslim snipers gun down a program analyst in a store parking lot.
10/3/2002 USA Montgomery County, MD 5 0 Muslim snipers kill three men and two women in separate attacks over a 15-hour period.
10/9/2002 USA Manassas, VA 1 1 A man is killed by Muslim snipers while pumping gas two days after a 13-year-old is wounded by the same team.
10/11/2002 USA Fredericksburg, VA 1 0 Another man is killed by Muslim snipers while pumping gas.
10/14/2002 USA Arlington, VA 1 0 A woman is killed by Muslim snipers in a Home Depot parking lot.
10/22/2002 USA Aspen Hill, MD 1 0 A bus driver is killed by Muslim snipers.
8/6/2003 USA Houston, TX 1 0 After undergoing a religious revival, a Saudi college student slashes the throat of a Jewish student with a 4" butterfly knife, nearly decapitating the young man.
12/2/2003 USA Chicago, IL 1 0 A Muslim doctor deliberately allows a Jewish patient to die from an easily treatable condition.
4/13/2004 USA Raleigh, NC 1 4 A Muslim man runs down five strangers with a car.
4/15/2004 USA Scottsville, NY 1 2 In an honor killing, a Muslim father kills his wife and attacks his two daughters with a knife and hammer because he feared that they had been sexually molested.
6/16/2006 USA Baltimore, MD 1 0 A 62-year-old Jewish moviegoer is shot to death by a Muslim gunman in an unprovoked terror attack.
6/25/2006 USA Denver, CO 1 5 Saying that it was 'Allah's choice', a Muslim shoots four of his co-workers and a police officer.
7/28/2006 USA Seattle, WA 1 5 An 'angry' Muslim-American uses a young girl as hostage to enter a local Jewish center, where he shoots six women, one of whom dies.
10/6/2006 USA Louisville, KY 4 1 In an 'honor' attack, a Muslim man rapes and beats his estranged wife, leaving her for dead, then savagely murders their four children.
2/13/2007 USA Salt Lake City, UT 5 4 A Muslim immigrant goes on a shooting rampage at a mall, targeting people buying Valentine's Day cards at a gift shop and killing five.
1/1/2008 USA Irving, TX 2 0 A Muslim immigrant shoots his two daughters to death on concerns about their 'Western' lifestyle.
7/6/2008 USA Jonesboro, GA 1 0 A devout Muslim strangles his 25-year-old daughter in an honor killing.
2/12/2009 USA Buffalo, NY 1 0 The founder of a Muslim TV station beheads his wife in the hallway for seeking a divorce.
6/1/2009 USA Little Rock, AR 1 1 A Muslim with 'religious motives' shoots a local soldier to death inside a recruiting center.
11/2/2009 USA Glendale, AZ 1 1 A woman dies from injuries suffered when her father runs her down with a car for being too 'Westernized.' (10-20-09)
11/5/2009 USA Ft. Hood, TX 13 31 A Muslim psychiatrist guns down thirteen unarmed soldiers while yelling praises to Allah.

(3,308 killed by Muslims in America in 65 terror attacks)

Now, now Mike, you're being too hard on the religion of peace. I'm being facetious of course. You really don't think Herb will bother reading this do you? He only wants to look at whites, you know their favorite mantra is: Timothy McVeigh, who, by the way was not a Christian.

HUM, HOW CAN YOU WASTE YOUR TIME ANSWERING TO THE BRAIN DEAD , LIKE HERB....
IT'S AMAZING HE CAN GET OUT OF BED IN THE MORNING AND FIND HIS WEE WEE...

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Originally posted by scooby doo:
HUM, HOW CAN YOU WASTE YOUR TIME ANSWERING TO THE BRAIN DEAD , LIKE HERB....
IT'S AMAZING HE CAN GET OUT OF BED IN THE MORNING AND FIND HIS WEE WEE...

Did you find your wee wee this morning?