CONTRARY TO WHAT SOME BELIVE THE TALIBAN AND AL-QAEDA ARE ALL WORKING TOGETHER IN AFGHANISTAN AND MUST BE DEALTH WITH AS ONE.

SHERWANGAI, Pakistan – Pakistani soldiers battling their way into a Taliban stronghold along the Afghan border have seized passports that may be linked to 9/11 suspects, as they confront an enemy skilled in operating in a mountainous terrain with endless ways to wage a guerrilla war.

The military on Thursday took foreign and local journalists for a first look inside the largely lawless territory since it launched a ground offensive here in mid-October. The U.S.-backed operation is focused on a section of the tribal region where the Pakistani Taliban are based and are believed to shelter al-Qaida.

Soldiers displayed passports seized in the operation, among them a German document belonging to a man named Said Bahaji. That matches the name of a man thought to have been a member of the Hamburg cell that conceived the 9/11 attacks. Bahaji is believed to have fled Germany shortly before the attacks in New York and Washington.

The passport included a tourist visa for Pakistan and a stamp indicating he'd arrived in the southern city of Karachi on Sept. 4, 2001.

Another passport, from Spain, bears the name of Raquel Burgos Garcia. Spanish media have reported that a woman with the same name is married to Amer Azizi, an alleged al-Qaida member from Morocco suspected in both the 9/11 attacks and the Madrid train bombings in 2004.

Her family in Madrid has had no news of her since 2001, according to Spanish media. Her passport included visas to India and Iran, and the army displayed a Moroccan document with Burgos Garcia's photo and other information.

IT IS NOT TO SAY THAT THE PASKISTANI GOVERNMENT DOES NOT KNOW THIS, AND CHOOSES TO TURN THEIR HEAD. IT'S ALSO DIFFICULT TO BELIEVE THAT THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE BIN LADEN IS.WE DO NOT HAVE 100% COOPERATION FROM THIS GOVERNMENT DESPITE THE BILLIONS WE GIVE THEM IN AIDE. WHAT THEY GIVE BACK TO US IS DOG BONES!

AND NOW MAYBE SOME OF YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE BEEN FIGHTING THE WRONG WAR!!!!!!

I'M SURE OBAMA HAS IT ALL FIGURED OUT...HE HAS ENOUGH EXPERIENCE IN THE MATTER...MUCH MORE THAN MCCAIN DID...

ASIDE FROM THAT, NOTHING ELSE IS KNEW IN THE MIDDLE EAST...THERE'S STILL AMERICAN BODY BAGS COMING HOME ON THE PLANES

Hillary Clinton said in pakistan today that the government knows where the taliban is located, but isn't going after them. A refreshing bit of truth.

"General McChrystal finds solace and hope for success - in a country that is ideologically opposed to us just for breathing the same air?? Even if there was a shred of hope in this strategy succeeding, what gives us the right to interfere in the affairs of another culture that is, by any measure, content with their lot in life? The fact is we don't have the right and, that is not what we went there to do. Again; we went there to chase and kill the enemy that spawned the elements that attacked us on September 11, 2001. In addition we decided to chase and kill those who offered them safe harbor and training bases from which to train and launch attacks. The Taliban, which were the sitting governance at the time, invited Al Qaida into Afghanistan to train and plan. The contention that the Taliban and Al Qaida are somehow diametrically opposed either ideologically or on some other basis; rings hollow in light of the facts. If the Taliban did not want Al Qaida there, they would not have been there. It must have pleased them on some level to have them there because they were there." John Bernard, 1stSgt, USMC, Ret., Fallen Marine's Father

Obama plays pick-up basketball and has date night while our brave warriors die!

"For better or for worse, I may be the face of this. That’s fine,” said Bernard, sitting on his porch as he drank coffee from a Marine Corps mug. “As soon as someone bigger can run with it, they can have the whole thing.”

Bernard’s criticism is aimed at new rules of engagement imposed by Gen. Stanley McChrystal, the senior American commander in Afghanistan, five weeks before Joshua Bernard was killed. They limit the use of airstrikes and require troops to break off combat when civilians are present, even if it means letting the enemy escape. They also call for greater cooperation with the Afghan National Army.

Under those rules, John Bernard said, Marines and soldiers are being denied artillery and air support for fear of killing civilians, and the Taliban is using that to its tactical advantage. In a letter to his congressman and Maine’s U.S. senators, Bernard condemned “the insanity of the current situation and the suicidal position this administration has placed these warriors in.”
http://www.bangordailynews.com/detail/125116.html

GOOD GOD PEOPLE! AFTER READING THIS, IS THERE ANY DOUBT ABOUT THE EVIL IN THIS ADMINISTRATION? WHAT IS THERE FOR THIS O GUY TO THINK ABOUT? BRING OUR TROOPS HOME FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, THIS IS NOTHING BUT A SLAUGHTER. THERE WILL BE A HELL FOR THE PEOPLE BEHIND THIS IN THIS COUNTRY.

"THERE WILL BE A HELL FOR THE PEOPLE BEHIND THIS IN THIS COUNTRY."

WHAT KIND OF ENGLISH IS THIS? WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY?

IF IT'S THERE WILL BE HELL TO PAY FOR THE PERSON BEHIND THIS, THEN STOP RIGHT THERE. BUSH BROUGHT THEM THERE, THEY HAVE BEEN THERE FOR WHAT 7 YEARS NOW, AND NOW YOU WANT TO BLAME THE NEW ADMINISTRATION. YOU ARE A JOKE!

HOW COME I DIDN'T SEE YOU WRITING THIS LAST YEAR, OR THE YEARS BEFORE THAT? YOUR PREJUDICE IS SO EVIDENT.MAN, I CAN NOT TOLERATE YOUR WARPED THINKING.

quote:

Originally posted by norre:
"THERE WILL BE A HELL FOR THE PEOPLE BEHIND THIS IN THIS COUNTRY."

WHAT KIND OF ENGLISH IS THIS? WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY?

IF IT'S THERE WILL BE HELL TO PAY FOR THE PERSON BEHIND THIS, THEN STOP RIGHT THERE. BUSH BROUGHT THEM THERE, THEY HAVE BEEN THERE FOR WHAT 7 YEARS NOW, AND NOW YOU WANT TO BLAME THE NEW ADMINISTRATION. YOU ARE A JOKE!

HOW COME I DIDN'T SEE YOU WRITING THIS LAST YEAR, OR THE YEARS BEFORE THAT? YOUR PREJUDICE IS SO EVIDENT.MAN, I CAN NOT TOLERATE YOUR WARPED THINKING.

Norre, you said this can't be Gracie, but Bird is a dead ringer.

WELL THEN WHO IS BIRD? EVERY DOG HAS IT'S DAY. LMAOPMP

quote:

, AND NOW YOU WANT TO BLAME THE NEW ADMINISTRATION. YOU ARE A JOKE!

I'm a joke? Who is the president today? Does he have any say in anything? Does he have any power to do anything? It's your pres O, that's who, and what is he doing? Playing golf. Oh and I heard through the grapevine, don't know if it's true so check it for yourselves people, when the 18 Caskets returned home, and O went to 'pray' and wish the families well, I understand half of them refused to meet with him. Just check it out for yourself, see if it's true.

HERE YOU GO AGAIN. NOW YOU ARE RESORTING TO RUMORS.
HE MET WITH ALL OF THE FAMILY MEMBERS AT THE BASE CHAPEL.GEE DID BUSH DO THAT? OH, THAT'S RIGHT HE WOULDN'T LET ANYONE SEE ALL THE FLAG DRAPPED COFFINS RETURNING HOME.

quote:

ANYONE SEE ALL THE FLAG DRAPPED COFFINS RETURNING HOME.

That's right, it is too depressing, and there were far LESS COFFINS IN THOSE DAYS. Do you really appreciate seeing flag draped coffins? I don't, I suspect not many people do. Leave those people in peace with respect, not a photo opt.

The sole genuine reason for seeing it through in Afghanistan is that Pakistan is starting to play it fair & square. Terrorism doesn't really need a permanent base. They largely operate in hotel rooms and cyber cafes throughout the world. To keep Pakistan kosher (Halal?), the USA and others needs to get closer to India as the potential "stick".

Sam

I have long thought that Gutterbird is Gracie for the simple fact that there could never be two of that mentality in the world.

Yes there could. I believe she is another active board member.

quote:

Originally posted by Holy Moses:
"General McChrystal finds solace and hope for success - in a country that is ideologically opposed to us just for breathing the same air?? Even if there was a shred of hope in this strategy succeeding, what gives us the right to interfere in the affairs of another culture that is, by any measure, content with their lot in life? The fact is we don't have the right and, that is not what we went there to do. Again; we went there to chase and kill the enemy that spawned the elements that attacked us on September 11, 2001. In addition we decided to chase and kill those who offered them safe harbor and training bases from which to train and launch attacks. The Taliban, which were the sitting governance at the time, invited Al Qaida into Afghanistan to train and plan. The contention that the Taliban and Al Qaida are somehow diametrically opposed either ideologically or on some other basis; rings hollow in light of the facts. If the Taliban did not want Al Qaida there, they would not have been there. It must have pleased them on some level to have them there because they were there." John Bernard, 1stSgt, USMC, Ret., Fallen Marine's Father

Obama plays pick-up basketball and has date night while our brave warriors die!

"For better or for worse, I may be the face of this. That’s fine,” said Bernard, sitting on his porch as he drank coffee from a Marine Corps mug. “As soon as someone bigger can run with it, they can have the whole thing.”

Bernard’s criticism is aimed at new rules of engagement imposed by Gen. Stanley McChrystal, the senior American commander in Afghanistan, five weeks before Joshua Bernard was killed. They limit the use of airstrikes and require troops to break off combat when civilians are present, even if it means letting the enemy escape. They also call for greater cooperation with the Afghan National Army.

Under those rules, John Bernard said, Marines and soldiers are being denied artillery and air support for fear of killing civilians, and the Taliban is using that to its tactical advantage. In a letter to his congressman and Maine’s U.S. senators, Bernard condemned “the insanity of the current situation and the suicidal position this administration has placed these warriors in.”
http://www.bangordailynews.com/detail/125116.html

Careful there Holy, the liborals on this board don't like talk of service to this Country...

quote:

Originally posted by mickeymantle:
Yes there could. I believe she is another active board member.

STEVE, KATHY/GRACIE ISN'T POSTING HERE

quote:

Originally posted by Inarsword:
I have long thought that Gutterbird is Gracie for the simple fact that there could never be two of that mentality in the world.

I GUESS YOU WERE WRONG.HAHA

quote:

Originally posted by scooby doo:

quote:

Originally posted by mickeymantle:
Yes there could. I believe she is another active board member.

STEVE, KATHY/GRACIE ISN'T POSTING HERE

Yes, I know.

It is down to two people, one probably.

You know the person well.