no wonder why my satelite keeps going out....


http://bighollywood.breitbart....your-television-set/

Volunteerism and service have long been valued American activities way before Obama showed up. So now they are bad things without social value? In fact, many of our high schools require community service? No longer just a résumé padder for college applications, volunteerism has become a graduation requirement for high school students in hundreds of school districts around the country. Schools have done this most successfully through service-learning programs, which tie community-service projects to areas of academic study, such as the environment or world hunger. The Corporation for National and Community Service reports that service learning increases students' attendance, grades, and community involvement, among other benefits. But opponents argue that "mandatory volunteerism" is a contradiction in terms, one that schools should not thrust on students already overwhelmed with homework, exams, and college applications. Should schools require high school students to serve their communities? What do you think?

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Should schools require high school students to serve their communities?

No. None of us ever did, did you? We served our communities by being good citizens, these kids need to learn in school, if they are educated then they can serve their communities well.

It is a great idea and allows those people who need help, profit, in a small way, from the taxes they pay.

You say Obama is controlling our TVs. Do you think he could do something about the vertical control on ours?

Sam

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Originally posted by Inarsword:
It is a great idea and allows those people who need help, profit, in a small way, from the taxes they pay.

Innie;

On this one we do agree!

What is the purpose of "enforced volunteerism"?: to assist the store owner, the public, volunteer-organizations, OR, the student himself?

Enforcing volunteerism will result in disgruntled students either not showing up, making things worse, or, at best, providing NOTHING.

Who will monitor attendance, behavior etc? AND what are the consequences of being a poor "enforced volunteer"?

If the STUDENT is to benefit, I believe that it should be a student choice to volunteer to truly reap the future rewards of his action.

From personal experience as a high school teacher many years ago, it turns into a disaster shortly.

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Originally posted by mickeymantle:
What is the purpose of "enforced volunteerism"?: to assist the store owner, the public, volunteer-organizations, OR, the student himself?

Enforcing volunteerism will result in disgruntled students either not showing up, making things worse, or, at best, providing NOTHING.

Who will monitor attendance, behavior etc? AND what are the consequences of being a poor "enforced volunteer"?

If the STUDENT is to benefit, I believe that it should be a student choice to volunteer to truly reap the future rewards of his action.

From personal experience as a high school teacher many years ago, it turns into a disaster shortly.

i agree mic....

the reward for volunteering is 4 disney park tickets for 1 day (disney owns abc...the media controls everything....lol)...

our freedom of speech is very fragile and hanging on a very thin thread...

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Originally posted by mickeymantle:
What is the purpose of "enforced volunteerism"?: to assist the store owner, the public, volunteer-organizations, OR, the student himself?

Enforcing volunteerism will result in disgruntled students either not showing up, making things worse, or, at best, providing NOTHING.

Who will monitor attendance, behavior etc? AND what are the consequences of being a poor "enforced volunteer"?

If the STUDENT is to benefit, I believe that it should be a student choice to volunteer to truly reap the future rewards of his action.

From personal experience as a high school teacher many years ago, it turns into a disaster shortly.

The local high school has public service on a volunteer basis. Most of the kids who do it are the better students whose home life fosters such action. They are rewarded with credit for doing so.

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Originally posted by Inarsword:

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Originally posted by mickeymantle:
What is the purpose of "enforced volunteerism"?: to assist the store owner, the public, volunteer-organizations, OR, the student himself?

Enforcing volunteerism will result in disgruntled students either not showing up, making things worse, or, at best, providing NOTHING.

Who will monitor attendance, behavior etc? AND what are the consequences of being a poor "enforced volunteer"?

If the STUDENT is to benefit, I believe that it should be a student choice to volunteer to truly reap the future rewards of his action.

From personal experience as a high school teacher many years ago, it turns into a disaster shortly.

The local high school has public service on a volunteer basis. Most of the kids who do it are the better students whose home life fosters such action. They are rewarded with credit for doing so.

I agree with THAT type of volunteerism, especially in high schools, where it is obvious that both the student AND the place where he/she volunteers will generally both benefit.

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Originally posted by scooby doo:

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Originally posted by mickeymantle:
What is the purpose of "enforced volunteerism"?: to assist the store owner, the public, volunteer-organizations, OR, the student himself?

Enforcing volunteerism will result in disgruntled students either not showing up, making things worse, or, at best, providing NOTHING.

Who will monitor attendance, behavior etc? AND what are the consequences of being a poor "enforced volunteer"?

If the STUDENT is to benefit, I believe that it should be a student choice to volunteer to truly reap the future rewards of his action.

From personal experience as a high school teacher many years ago, it turns into a disaster shortly.

i agree mic....

the reward for volunteering is 4 disney park tickets for 1 day (disney owns abc...the media controls everything....lol)...

our freedom of speech is very fragile and hanging on a very thin thread...

And Rupert Murdoch owns the NY Post & the Wall Street Journal & Fox News. So when is the right wing going to stop controlling the media?

Enforced volunteerism=slavery

We have come so far from doing the right thing to begin with that we now have to ask for volunteers.If we instill what was instilled in us as children then we wouldn't be where we are at this point and time.What we really have come away from is the fact that WE should do the right thing ALL THE TIME.Stop cutting corners and taking the easy or cheap way out.If our parents had taken short cuts ,we would really be in deep S*@#.That seems to be what has this generation always complaining and looking for more.They don't want to work for it ,just give it to me because I deserve it.Now when you ask for them to step up and volunteer they think you are wrong in doing so.

SOME OF YOU PEOPLE JUST DON'T GET IT AND NEVER WILL---
THE GOV'T TAKES AWAY YOUR FREEDOMS IN VERY SMALL INCREMENTS....IT'S HAPPENING, AND RIGHT UNDER YOUR NOSES, AND YET YOU'LL STILL SUPPORT A LEFT WING RADICAL MARXIST , AND BOW TO HIM LIKE HE'S THE MESSIAH ...

SOME OF YOU CAN'T BE PLAYING W/ A FULL DECK THEN

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Originally posted by scooby doo:
SOME OF YOU PEOPLE JUST DON'T GET IT AND NEVER WILL---
THE GOV'T TAKES AWAY YOUR FREEDOMS IN VERY SMALL INCREMENTS....IT'S HAPPENING, AND RIGHT UNDER YOUR NOSES, AND YET YOU'LL STILL SUPPORT A LEFT WING RADICAL MARXIST , AND BOW TO HIM LIKE HE'S THE MESSIAH ...

SOME OF YOU CAN'T BE PLAYING W/ A FULL DECK THEN

Truthfully, you are a broken record. Do you even know what a Marxist is? You have called Obama a fascist, a socialist and now a Marxist. i seriously doubt you understand what each one is.

Uh, Inar, you forgot Democrat, Liberal and a Communist......so what is left that he isn't?
1) Republican
2) Conservative
3) Green Peace

Is the Whig Party still in existence?

I better check them also.

HAHAHAHH

Perhaps the Know Nothings....no, that would be the Conservatives!

scooby doo said above:

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SOME OF YOU PEOPLE JUST DON'T GET IT AND NEVER WILL---
THE GOV'T TAKES AWAY YOUR FREEDOMS IN VERY SMALL INCREMENTS...

Exactly what freedoms are you talking about? I tried very hard to think of a single freedom I have lost personally over the last 60 years, but could not think of any. Could you please help me out by listing some of the incremental freedoms you have had taken away from you personally. Is there anything you are no longer free to do today that you could do in the past? Am I missing something here? Are there some freedoms I have lost, but don't know I have lost them?

If "The One" has his way he will get to you in time. Right now he is focusing on the financial institutions that received bail outs. When your utility bills double, if Cap & Trade passes, that will be a loss of freedom from Government Intrusion. However, the most blatant loss of freedom is this administration's tossing the Constitution aside in order to implement a socialist agenda.
Our freedoms are in jeopardy if Obamacare is passed.

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Originally posted by Holy Moses:
scooby doo said above:

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SOME OF YOU PEOPLE JUST DON'T GET IT AND NEVER WILL---
THE GOV'T TAKES AWAY YOUR FREEDOMS IN VERY SMALL INCREMENTS...

Exactly what freedoms are you talking about? I tried very hard to think of a single freedom I have lost personally over the last 60 years, but could not think of any. Could you please help me out by listing some of the incremental freedoms you have had taken away from you personally. Is there anything you are no longer free to do today that you could do in the past? Am I missing something here? Are there some freedoms I have lost, but don't know I have lost them?

I think we have to carefully define what we mean by "freedom". Are we talking specifically about constitutional freedoms, or every day "freedoms". For example, many state governments have mandated the wearing of seat belts and has banned smoking in many public areas, on public transportation, etc. How about if I want MY freedom to NOT wear a seat belt, or I want to smoke. Isn't that my "freedom?"

So, has the government denied us our "freedom" in these two examples, or is Holy using "freedom" differently?