Donna, she was a great person, and she had the respect of alot of people, I know I am not the only one who loved her, but I am the one that when the goings got rough, I was there with her
and never left, which is more than some people can say.

You know we went to the same school, she hung with a different crowd, than I did, she was the one that everyone went to for advise about boys,school, this or that. She was never in trouble and she was respectful to everyone. So what happened to the "boyfriend"? I'd love to hear his version of what happened and why he walked away. I wonder if he regretted his actions.

This whole saga is better than a soap opera, especially since all the players are from the Bronx.

You know I haven't a clue what happened to the "boyfriend" he's never said a word, never contacted anyone, I personally think that if he was named and identified, that he'd s**t in his pants, hoping that no one would put two and two together, yes, the loyal husband running to meet his sweetheart, while he plays loyal husband what a crock of BS. He's a coward through and through, he destroyed the one person that loved him unconditionally, but she paid the price.

Yes, we all lived in the Bronx for awhile, I left after our breakup I deserved what happened but I couldn't stay in NY after that. Came back years later, stayed for awhile then moved again. My Angel moved out of NY and went to NJ then FL. "Loverboy" lived in the Bronx for awhile.

Well, if he loved her as much as everyone thinks he did, if it was just a misunderstanding he should have been man enough to go to her and make-up with her. I've had times myself where people misunderstood something I said or did and we resolved it and went on from there. Either that or he was looking for a way to get out of the situation?
I guess we'll never know, he's the only one left to say what did or did not happen. I bet you he still loves her, I don't think he'd leave his wife for her, but I bet he probably did love her, for whatever its worth. Funny, that she's more famous now dead, then when she was alive.

I'll be seeing a few people this weekend that I think might have known her, maybe I can find out more information. I'm telling you, she wasn't the type of person to go out with a married man, from what I remember she never cheated on anyone including you Jose, she walked a straight line her whole life as far as I can tell. This "boyfriend" either he loved her to death or was a great BS artist. Like I said I'll be in touch with some people that knew her or knew someone who knew her, I'll try and get as much info as possible.

May she rest in peace.

I agree with you Donna, on walking a straight line, I know that she never cheated on me, I can't say the same, and I am ashamed that and she actually forgave me for which I will always be grateful, it bothered me for years, she was sooo in the dark about alot of things, but like the great person she was, she held her head high and was gracious and forgiving. More than I can say for the "boyfriend" who being a Catholic should know the words "forgiveness". Believe me, if the shoe was on the other foot she would have "forgiven" him for anything, I would bet my life on it. He has to live with it my conscience is clear.

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Originally posted by Donna Rizzi:
Like I said I'll be in touch with some people that knew her or knew someone who knew her, I'll try and get as much info as possible.

I may pee myself in anticipation.

I don't think anyone here knows the full story.

Come on Herbie, you know the story, its been repeated about 100 times on Bronxboard, and other websites. Doesn't matter anymore cause it won't bring her back.

Jose, I was not referring to your story. I was talking about the man who entered her life a few years ago.

Herb, I have very mixed emotions on this guy, maybe because he had my Angels love and maybe I didn't want to admit that she loved him as well and I probably would never get her back in my life again. Admittedly, he never really did anything but love her, until 2002 when he went off crazy over a misunderstanding that could have been resolved. If he loved my Angel as he said, he would have/could have saved everyone a whole lot of grief, he walked away,wiped his hands as if it never happened and continued with his life. He didn't even have the decency to tell her he was leaving, no phone calls, no e-mails, nothing and for that he is a coward.
I wish he'd tell me WHY, I'd love to hear his version of this, WHY with not a word he just said oh well, and walked out of her life for NO GOOD REASON.

Jose, I was unaware or don't remember whether he married again after his wife died.

Ha, we're talking about two different people, I know who your talking about, the gentleman that became friends with her and tried to find medical help for her...I think that's who your talking about, he disappeared completely, I know that he liked her alot, but they ended up friends more than anything else, he disappeared and no one ever heard from him again, I think he left NY, when he met my Angel he was still married to some crazy young girl he worked with, if I remember what was told to me.

The guy I'm talking about, she met on Bronxboard and she was in love with him, I mean head over heels in love, she thought that they'd be together forever, I even though it was going to work, I think he believed it would work, with the exception that he had a wife, but hey, sometimes things do fall into place, or was he a BS artist, feeding her a line of sh*t. Don't know, only he can answer that question and I don't think he'll do that. Like I said, I have mixed emotions on this whole thing, while I try to understand the situation, I get so angry, because he had the power to stop everything that happened and he didn't. He just wiped his hands and went back to his happy life as if nothing mattered, and you know what, it did matter, it mattered to my Angel, he put her through hell and back, for what? A life that he wasn't happy with, didn't want to look like the bad guy, well, guess what in my eyes he is the bad guy, he took from me the only person I ever loved.

Jose, are you sure that there were two different people?

The person I am talking about would be about 73 or 74 today. He was well educated.

Yes, Herb there were two different guys, first there was the Bronxboard guy, they were in love
and everything was going along fine, until she got a e-mail from the educated one who was from the Bronx, lived in the Bronx, they were just very good friends, and the Bronxboard guy took exception to her having another friend, after all she was single(widowed) and could talk/write to whoever she wanted to, its not a crime. The gentlemen your referring to was a retired Fed. he was a very good friend to her and tried to help, he vanished into thin air.
The other guy, I guess he's still around, probably still married telling his wife how much he loves her, he to is in his 70's by now.
If only he had used his head and wasn't so stubborn they might have had a life together, that's what gets me so mad, this gutless wonder threw it all away, because he wouldn't listen to what was said. I heard each and every detail of what happened from my Angel and I can't understand what this man was thinking. If he loved her so much, he should have stood by her side and worked with her, not against her.

Yes, the educated one as you call him, was a very dear friend to me, I was longtime friends with his wife, after she died, well, our friendship continued, I thought we would get together (wed) but then along came your Angel (the singer) and everything changed, he was smitten with her, but she didn't return his feelings, he did try very hard to help her (he was good like that) as things got worse, he got depressed and one day just up and left, not a word to anyone, gone, disappeared, I haven't heard a word in years. Your Angel certainly had a effect on the people she touched. I hold no ill will, but whatever happened, it sure shook up alot of people and their lives. All those lives touched by one person and all it did was bring hurt, sorrow and pain, what a sad situation for everyone concerned.

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Originally posted by Suzie:
Yes, the educated one as you call him, was a very dear friend to me, I was longtime friends with his wife, after she died, well, our friendship continued, I thought we would get together (wed) but then along came your Angel (the singer) and everything changed, he was smitten with her, but she didn't return his feelings, he did try very hard to help her (he was good like that) as things got worse, he got depressed and one day just up and left, not a word to anyone, gone, disappeared, I haven't heard a word in years. Your Angel certainly had a effect on the people she touched. I hold no ill will, but whatever happened, it sure shook up a lot of people and their lives. All those lives touched by one person and all it did was bring hurt, sorrow and pain, what a sad situation for everyone concerned.

----WOW---.

I can remember that several fellows from Morris Ave had a thing for her, I always thought she was stuck up because she had money, she thought she was better than some of us, but she changed as she got older, I remember how Jose used to get mad at her all the time, he didn't want her looking at no one, only him. Hey, Jose you had some HOT latin temper. I remember John Lewis liked her so much, every time he got around her he got tonguetied and the other guys would tease him, he'd get ****ed and walk off. I remember her and Robbie Kemmel got into a fight and she ranted until he threw his hands in the air and said Uncle. She was quite a girl, and being around neighborhood friends this weekend bought back alot of memories that I had forgotten. Jose, you picked the right one, too bad you let her get away.

Donna, for the life of me, I don't know who you are? I don't remember anyone named Donna from the group of kids on Morris, as you may or may not know Robbie died years ago, 1996, cancer.
Alot of the old group is gone now, including my Angel, yes, back then I was a control freak, I think most of us were, but I've mellowed with time and my heart has softened. I'm glad that you have fond memories of those times, I also hang onto those memories that's all I have left.
Yes, Donna, she was the right one, but she gave her heart to NJ and I wished her much love and happiness, I really thought it was going to work.

I remember.