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Jose, the words to that song are really nice, sometimes when I sit and listen to the radio or some of the music I have at the house, it takes me back in time, certain words jog a memory or a place and the person I was with or what I might have been doing. I can retreat into my mind for a little while and relive that moment.
I know how you feel, the anger/guilt it comes and goes, somedays more than others. I feel for you because you were torn between the one you loved and trying to protect her at the same time, you'll never know if this "other person" is feeling the same hurt/guilt/anger to dwell on it for so long, you yourself will not heal, think of all the good that you were able to do and are still doing, heal my friend, its time. |
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I will be gone for a few days, hope everyone has a great weekend, see you all soon.
The night we met I knew I needed you so, and if I had the chance I'd never let you go, so won't you say you love me, I'll make you so proud of me, we'll make them turn their heads every place we go, sooooo, won't you BE MY, BE MY LITTLE BABY..........."our song" 1963 Love begins with a smile, grows with a kiss, and ends with a teardrop....... |
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I have to tell you this weekend totally blew me away, going back to the place where it all started, geez, seeing so many of our former classmates, meeting new people, eating a wonderful meal and reminisceing about years gone by, great entertainment by some of the best oldies groups still performing, what a day in the Bronx, meeting our host Jose, who put together a great event, I'm sure that if his Angel was watching she would say well done, he had a whole presentation of his Angel (the early years) plus footage that her family gave him, what a great family she had, 5 beautiful children all grown, grandkids, greatgrandkids it was a sight to behold. My guy and I are sooo happy that we went, it was a tribute to a former classmate and friend. Jose you out did yourself, it was a pleasure meeting you, friend.
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Well what can I say, I don't think I'll ever get over the fact that my BFF is gone, not here to go to when I screw up, she always had my back no matter what, I look forward to this memorial the whole year, I know its a very emotional day for me, my daugher who just a few months ago lost her son in a car accident, but she remembers growing up with my BF being around. Jose, my buddy, you did a great job, I can't take credit for it all, but you pulled it all together so nicely. K would be so proud of you, I know she was looking down on us, I thought for just a second I could hear her saying, "M when the hell are you going to listen to me" she was always dragging my a^& out of trouble. Her children now all grown, I remember the boys so small back in NJ, and her youngest, like looking at K and she has the same sense of humor, yes, Jose, thank you, you came through again for another year of tribute and friends coming together to remember, I for one will never forget.
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I don'ta meana to butta in, butta could someaone tella me,whatta this is allabout, froma whatta I canna picka up, someonea died, Jose wifea??? and theya havea tributea in the Bronx, yes, sheesh, ifa I'a know I'a would'vea comea pay my respects, I notta know Mr. Jose personally but ifa he go through the troublea to doa this fina thing, I woulda havea stopped by for a minute or two out of respecta. Maybe nextta time, I finea out, I'a come. Sorrya for your losea Mr. Jose.
I'ma good Italian boy from the Bronx |
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Thank you to everyone who was able to attend this event, with each passing year, the group of people that attends grows. I've reached out to many former classmates, friends and people in the entertainment business that knew my Angel, I have tried to put together a lasting tribute to my one and only love, who has had my heart for the last 45 yrs, it is a act of love for someone who rightly deserves to be remembered for all that she was and for the joy that she gave to those her fans.
Donna it was a pleasure meeting you and the others that were in high school with her, I heard sooo many stories, some I heard before, others I can imagine K saying from up above "shhhh, don't tell that story", either way we all had a good time and thank you for getting word out to those I didn't know about. Mar, it was great seeing you and your lovely daughter, still the same ole Mar, K is watching over you I know as she watches over all of us that remain, I'm tired, but happy that everything turned out so well, the music and groups were fabulous to give of their time and perform, again to honor one of their own. Of course, my boys helped me in sooo many ways I couldn't have gotten it all together without soo much help to everyone my appreciation for a beautiful day, friends and family, a fitting tribute to my beautiful and everlasting Angel. Rest in peace. Love begins with a smile, grows with a kiss, and ends with a teardrop....... |
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Mr. Pepperoni, thank you for being concerned but I don't know if your for real or just playing around, with that said, I don't know you and you don't know me, so just keep us in your prayers and that will be respect enough. The story is long and need not be rehashed here thank you for your concern. Jose Love begins with a smile, grows with a kiss, and ends with a teardrop....... |
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Jose I am delighted that things went well with your reunion and rememberance of your friend and love. I am sure she smiles down on you every day. I am sure all of this does not go unappreciated by her family, keep yourself well.
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Thank you for your kinds words, this is something I do out of love, in some small way I owe this to her for all that she did for me a debt of gratitude, her family started this annual memorial as a tribute to their mother and her love of the Bronx, friends/family and classmates (many who were devoted to her) and those with whom she shared the stage, singers/backup singers/band members/record industry members, they all come together for this one event a year, for one weekend the Bronx comes alive with the sounds of those oldies but goodies. Again thank you, it means alot to me.
Love begins with a smile, grows with a kiss, and ends with a teardrop....... |
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It is important to acknowledge kindness, and you seem to have much of it.
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I'ma no takea offense, I'ma real person I'ma Tony the pizza maker, the bestta pizza South of Canoli, I'ma sooo happy thatta you havea nicea daya witha your friendsa, I'ma gonna keepa youa ina my prayers. I'a meana notta disrespect to you ora your Angel. TonyPepperoni I'ma good Italian boy from the Bronx |
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Looks like you and your friends had a good time, I know that you have mixed emotions about this "other person" who also was in love with your Angel, just wondering if "he" showed up or was he even invited, it would seem to me that if he cared as much as everyone says he did, that if invited he would "show". Jose, I don't want to open any old wounds or feelings especially after you did this very nice thing, being a woman, I'm just curious, I'd love to hear his side of the story. I wonder what he would say. I'm just sooooo curious about this whole thing. She was your love and its unfortunate that it ended in such a sad way. Glad that it all turned out OK for you and everyone.
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Suzie, we had a wonderful weekend, mass was said, then the luncheon, entertainment by some of the best oldies groups around, the hall was totally full, her former group The Innocents performed her favorites, many of which were once dedicated to that "other person". Who by the way, did not show, he's on the mailing list I know this to be fact, he ignores all e-mails.
You'll never hear his side of the story, he was a control freak, who wanted someone to listen to him day in day out, he enjoyed the attention, then when he felt threatened, he became very nasty, believe me when I say he mentally abused her to no end. I have enough to confirm that. His side of the story, well of course he would say he didn't do anything but love her, and she betrayed him, only thing is she was a single woman, who could see or talk to whoever she wanted, he felt threatened and he should have realized he had nothing to fear, I knew her like a book, I knew she better than even he did, I could always figure out her next move and this "other person" was stupid because he tossed away one hell of a woman, over some stupid insecurity. I think if he didn't react, they would still be together today......and I would have wished them both happiness, that's all I ever wanted for my Angel was happiness in her life, if not me, then someone who deserved her. He could have had it all, they could have spent the rest of their lives together being happy, and he threw it all away. Sad to say the least, I often think is he happy with the way his life is now or is he kicking himself that he didn't take a chance, me, I would have taken the chance, hell, for a chance to be happy for the rest of my life, why not. Yes, Suzie everything turned out OK and with all the good and wonderful friends she had, this will be an annual event for many years to come. Our Bronx girl would be proud, she is missed, loved and will be in everyones hearts for all eternity. Love begins with a smile, grows with a kiss, and ends with a teardrop....... |
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Jose, I'm new to this site, and reading all the threads, mine me asking who is this person you keep refering to? I see your from the same area that I grew up in, where exactly did you live/work?
I'm from Valentine Ave, hung out at Slattery Park and knew some, not many of the kids from PS 79 and a few from Simon Stock. Used to hang around EBB sometimes, knew Mary Flynn and Lynn Marchi from Ryer Ave. If any of that rings a bell. |
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Jose, you sound like a very sincere person, looking out for the welfare of someone you cared about, everyone should have a friend like you, I have to say I would be soooo ****ed that this "other person" didn't do one thing or lift a finger to help her in some way, he must have a heart of stone. I can't for the life of me understand the whole thing. He swore he loved her, wanted to be with her, then just walks aways without a word, how cruel, she must have been heartbroken.
Jose, maybe some day your turn will come for happiness, everyone deserves a chance at happiness, I'm sure that if your Angel were alive and this "other person" they would have resolved their differences and walked into the sunset.......we all want that, don't we? Your a good person and a wonderful friend and your Angel watches over you and keeps you well. |
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HitnMiss, I lived on Rogers Place in the early 60's, got a job at the Associated on 183rd and Morris Ave. I was the dairy manager, there until 1968, then I moved out of NY.
My Angel was the love of my life, we met in 1963, she lived on Creston Ave. they called her the German Princess as her family owned alot of real estate on 183rd St. She was very well known and got even more attention as she was the lead singer of a doo*** group called The Innocents. You can sort of grasp the rest of the story from the comments on this thread. She was, will always be the love of my life. You might have known her, she too hung around Slattery Park or possibly from around the neighborhood. By any chance did you know someone from PS 79 called John Gorman, he also was a boyfriend of hers. She went to St. Simon Stock, also till 10th grade, then transferred. Welcome to the board, we have a real nice group of people here, bring on those memories of life back in the Bronx. This message has been edited. Last edited by: Jose Antonio, Love begins with a smile, grows with a kiss, and ends with a teardrop....... |
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Jose, do you have any pictures of her? If so, do you know how to post them on here, I don't, so that's why I'm asking, I think we all would love to see your Angel.....thanks
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Italian, I have many pictures of my Angel, have pictures of her family, even have a picture of her and "loverboy". Unfortunately, I don't know how to download pictures either.
Love begins with a smile, grows with a kiss, and ends with a teardrop....... |
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I'm trying to think, I wonder if this is the same group of girls from Slattery Park? I knew a couple of girls from Simon Stock, not many, mostly those that lived around the neighborhood,at one point the HS went all girls, I think until it closed down.
I remember the Associated Market on 183rd, there was another store on the other side of Jerome Ave up on the hill, which one were you working at? Reading back on all the past threads its terrible when you lose someone you love, I can understand your anger. No I didn't know this John Gorman at least not by that name, so many of the guys had nicknames anything is possible. What years are we talking about? The area is not what it used to be that's for sure. Those days are long gone. |
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................................................ I worked at the Associated on 183rd and Morris Ave, that is where I was working when I met my Angel, she hung out on the corner of 183rd on Morris with a group of her friends. My Angel wasn't a regular at Slattery Park, but would sometimes go there with her friends, they did sing alot, they were called The Innocents. Johnny Gorman went to Creston JHS around 60/61 he repeated 9th grade, that I do know so he may have graduated in 62, quiet guy, tall, skinny he also sang, along with my Angel. I go back to the Bronx several times a year, I retrace all the places we ever went together. Those memories will never die, at least not for me, there are times I think she is still walking with me, strange things happen along the way when I'm in the Bronx and I sometimes wonder??????? I'm not the only one that feels these things too. The Bronx will always be in our hearts, although many of us are no longer living there, it still is part of what/who we are. Love begins with a smile, grows with a kiss, and ends with a teardrop....... |
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